By Huang Ruiyong
http://bbs.jibi.net/dispbbs.asp?boardid=91&Id=119905
Generally
speaking, actual mintage is a number in contrast to planned mintage.
Just as the name suggests, actual mintage is the actual number of a coin
or medal actually minted. In the case of modern Chinese precious metal
coins, actual mintage is highly significant, because it reflects very
vividly the release history of modern Chinese precious metal coins. As
we all know, the primary function of the early modern Chinese precious
metal coins was to bring back foreign exchange, while promoting Chinese
politics and culture worldwide. Except for coins for important political
events, many coins before Year 2000 were initiated by overseas
distributors, who came to the People's Bank of China for approval and
announcing the release. Then they would seek out Shanghai Mint, Shenyang
Mint or Shenzhen Guobao Mint for production before distributing the
coins. For example, the Historical Figures series gold and silver coins
were distributed by MDM in Germany; 8 gram lunars and dodecagonal Birds
gold and silver coins were distributed by the Hong Kong Peking Coin
Company Limited; the Guilin Scenery gold and silver coins were
distributed by Ocean Gold Coins in Hong Kong; the Ancient Inventions and
Discoveries series were distributed by PandaAmerica; the early Guanyin
series gold and silver coins were distributed by Chien Hsiung Liu Co. in
the US; the Unicorn series were distributed by Assets Marketing Co; the
Silk Road series gold and silver coins were distributed by ING in
Belgium… Fortunately, after Year 2000, distribution of Chinese precious
metal coins was consolidated. Almost all the products have been
distributed by the China Gold Coin Co., to the Kaiyuan Retail Center in
Beijing, Shenzhen Retail Center, Hong Kong Great Wall Coins Investments
Ltd., as well as MDM in Germany and PandaAmerica.
In the early
years, the distributors proposed different product specs and planned
mintage for precious metal coins because their capacity and channels
varied. Under normal circumstances, the distributor would generally
avoid producing the full planned mintage, because 1. They wanted to test
market reaction to the coin; 2. They had to put together a large amount
of money for the material and manufacturing cost. The distributor would
ask for termination or suspension of production of a certain coin if
the following occurred:
1. The market did not react favorably to the coin;
2. The distributor's business operations and cash flow were disrupted;
3. Management team change at the People's Bank of China, the China Gold Coin Co. (or China Mint Company) or the distributor.
When this happened, the concept of actual mintage, which is on every collector's mind, would come into the focus.
With
this explanation of actual mintage (original actual mintage), we all
see that actual mintage has a big impact on the assessment of the rarity
of a certain coin, because it is the essence of collection that rarity
determines the price. But we may be concerned with two more questions at
the same time:
1. How are the data of actual mintage of various precious metal coins obtained?
2. How do we treat the rumor widespread on the web of restrikes by Shanghai Mint of some types during 2001 to 2005?
Here are my answers to the two questions above:
1. The
data on actual mintage has to be verified by using materials from many
sources. This is a dynamic verification process. So far, no institutions
or individuals have been able to come up with accurate actual mintage
numbers of all the precious metal coins from the PRC. This problem
resulted from the overwhelming power of the distributors before 2000,
who could directly influence the entire process of project approval,
announcement, production and sales. Moreover, domestic supervisory and
production organizations did not maintain complete, systematic records.
In this light, in order to obtain a clear understanding of actual
mintage, the following needs to be investigated:
Historical distribution records of the these companies: China Mint Company, China Gold Coin Co., China Coins Limited;
Historical
production records of these organizations: Shanghai Mint, Shenyang
Mint, Guobao Mint, Swiss Faude & Huguenin, Swiss Pamp Mint, Swiss
Vacambi Mint, and Perth Mint of Australia;
All the sales records
of distributors and retailers, including: Hong Kong Great Wall Coins
Investments Ltd., Peking Coin Company Limited, PandaAmerica, MDM of
Germany, Japanese Taisei Coins Corporation, ING of Belgium and so on.
This
is a very arduous and complex process, which must be treated with
absolute seriousness. Through the collaboration of both official and
civilian efforts, the issue of actual mintage is expected to be worked
out for the most part.
2. Restrikes of some coins by Shanghai Mint after Year 2000 are described as follows:
According
to records in the Yearbook of Shanghai Mint (2002-2003), Yearbook of
Shanghai Mint (2004), Yearbook of Shanghai Mint (2005) and Yearbook of
Shanghai Mint (2006), all the restrikes of coins before Year 2000 are
listed below, in Table 1, 2 and 3:
(The tables are translated, merged and formated in this link: http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=18.msg15153#msg15153)
OK. Let me explain the restrikes from Tables 1 to 3.
First
of all, restrikes are not unique to China. Other countries in the world
also make restrikes, but they all exercise extreme caution when doing
so. Here is an example. When Hong Kong issued lunar gold coins years
ago, wild speculations followed because of the limited mintage, and the
price skyrocketed. The British Authority in Hong Kong immediately
decided to restrike the balance in the planned mintage, which
contributed to the stabilization of the price.
Now let's take a
look at the explanations from the currency issuing authorities on the
restrikes of precious metal coins. The following quotations are from an
administrator of the Gold and Silver Currency Division of the People
Bank of China:
A. For precious metal coins issued in the
years of China Mint Company (i.e. before 1987), China Gold Coin Co.
cannot apply for restrikes even if the planned mintage was not
fulfilled, because these were different projects managed by two
organizations, unless the precious metal coins had a theme that carried
over from China Mint Company to China Gold Coin Co. (such as Historical
Figures gold and silver coins). That is to say, independent themes
before 1987, such as the 1983 Marco Polo gold and silver coins, the 1986
Year of Peace gold and silver coins will be excluded from restrike
applications from China Gold Coin Co.
B. For precious metal
coins issued by the People's Bank of China and distributed by China Gold
Coin Co., sufficient reasons must be provided for restrikes, to be
approved by the Gold and Silver Currency Division of the People's Bank
of China. Moreover, if the quantity of the requested restrikes is too
small (below 5,000 pieces in one application), the proposal for
restrikes will most likely be rejected. (Comment: this information will
make collectors happy who follow the natural law of collection, because
many types with a small mintage will not be restruck. The original
actual mintage becomes an excellent reference).
C. Starting
last year, all the newly approved precious metal coins will not be
announced by the People's Bank of China if less than 70% of the planned
mintage is met, and certainly will not be approved for production. If
the newly approved precious metal coins reach 70% of the planned
mintage, the balance can be restruck, but the approved restrike window
is one year. (Comment: this information will make collectors feel
certain about the release mintage of new coins.)
We cannot talk
about restrikes without mentioning the other important term: melting.
Melting is exactly the opposite to restriking. What are the historical
records of melting in official books? 2007 was the 20th anniversary of
the founding of China Gold Coin Co. In the book "History of China Gold
Coin Co." written by the editorial committee of the book, cases of past
handling of precious metal coin and medal inventories by the China Gold
Coin Co. are clearly laid out:
The first time occurred on October
20, 1995. China Gold Coin Co. called an official meeting to focus on
the inventories of gold and silver commemorative coins. The meeting
decided that: the production facilities would check large size panda
silver coins (including 5 oz and 12 oz ones) minted before 1993. Twenty
specimens would be preserved. Any surplus over that would be melted.
The
second time was the 2002 official reply from the Gold and Silver
Currency Division of the People's Bank of China on the melting of some
of the commemorative gold and silver coin and medal inventories.
(Document No. 20 in 2002 by the Division). This official reply required
China Gold Coin Co. to melt some of the gold and silver coin
inventories, all the gold and silver medals and all the patterns of
unreleased gold and silver coins. Shanghai Mint and Shenyang Mint were
asked to monitor the melting of the gold and silver coin and medal
inventories. Between these two mints, Shenyang Mint was responsible for
monitoring the melting of: 111,593 gold coins and medals, 251,564 silver
coins and medals, and 3,909 bi-metal coins, which contained 794
kilograms of gold and 7,358 kilograms of silver. Shanghai Mint was
responsible for monitoring the melting of: 108,814 gold coins and
medals, 188,275 silver coins and medals, and 16 bi-metal coins, which
contained 916 kilograms of gold and 6,228 kilograms of silver. (Comment:
this happened exactly as China Gold Coin Co. was implementing a policy
of quality products with strict control of quantity. The scope of this
move was totally unexpected. We may say that with this large scale
melting, China Gold Coin Co. depleted most of its inventories.)
Now let's go back to the restrikes in Tables 1 to 3:
A. In
2003, the kilo gold Tang Dynasty Vault Protector was restruck. The kilo
silver Tang Dynasty Vault Protector was restruck in 2003 and 2004. The
Tang Dynasty Vault Protector coins were distributed by Hong Kong Peking
Coin Company Limited (later on renamed as Hong Kong China Coin Company
Limited). When the coins were first marketed in 1998, the coin market
was very slow. The distributor later on requested restrikes to make up
for their loss. Peking Coin Company Limited was a long-time business
partner of China Gold Coin Co. The 8 gram lunars distributed by them
were a huge success. Afterwards, the company made their name with lunar
coins. The restrikes of the Tang Dynasty Vault Protector coins were a
special case of a market compensation contract. If restrikes could be
used to make profits, Peking Coin Company Limited would have taken
advantage of their strong public relation skills and asked Shenyang Mint
to mint 8 gram gold Rat at full speed.
B. The 1999 Water
Spraying Guanyin coins are gold gilt silver coins. According to informed
sources at Shanghai Mint, the condition of the coins in the warehouse
was horrible because of bad storage environment. When China Gold Coin
Co. came to pick up the order, the condition of the coins was considered
below the standards of fiat currency. Shanghai Mint melted all the
inventory, and then re-minted the same number of coins as melted.
C. We
may notice that the Historical Figures silver coins were continuously
restruck. This is why we find brand new complete sets of Historical
Figures silver coins at Lugong and Madian markets. There was a big story
behind this set, as those were no ordinary restrike orders. The
original distributor of this set was MDM in Germany. In the catalog of
precious metal coins and medals by Mr. Ge Zukang, the actual mintage was
very different from the planned mintage. But later on, MDM got in
contact with a Hong Kong businessman by way of a coin dealer at the
Lugong Market, and obtained the approval for restrikes through China
Gold Coin Co. after many twists and turns. The quantity of the restrikes
was very surprising. This restrike plan stirred up a lot of noise (the
People's Bank of China was not aware of these restrikes at first). For
this reason, managers at China Gold Coin Co. responsible for the project
were moved to other positions in order to cool down complaints. This
set of coins will have more restrikes as it was an international project
with the contract already in place.
D. The Silk Road silver
coins were restruck in 2004 and 2005. The distributor of this set was
ING in Belgium. It was another international project, similar to the
Historical Figures silver coins. As the contract was already in place,
there was no option but to restrike the coins.
E. Two
specimens of the 1987 12 oz gold Panda, the 1991 12 oz gold Panda and
the 1996 20 oz Unicorn were restruck in 2004. These were normal
restrikes, as they were needed for China Gold Coin Co. to showcase the
coins.
With all this knowledge, we now have a better
understanding of the actual mintage and restrikes, instead of seeing
restrikes as fearful threats. We now know that theoretically, all the
precious metal coins are likely to be restruck in the future if the
actual mintage falls short of the planned mintage. But in fact the
possibility of restrikes will diminish, to the degree of being
negligible, because the Banking Law of the People's Republic of China
and the Regulations on Renminbi of People's Republic of China will be
further refined. As fiat currency, the approval, production and sales of
precious metal coins will be further regulated. Restrikes will have a
political impact. As collector and researchers, we need to understand
the reason for restrikes of some individual coins. Also, after learning
about restrikes of these coins, we should know that occasional restrikes
of such coins cannot be viewed as the harbinger for restriking all the
precious metal coins, just as we do not rush to get rid of all our color
coin collections when we occasionally find a lot of color paint peeling
off on one color coin.
Finally, precious metal coins from the
PRC usually have a smaller actual mintage than the planned mintage. With
early coins, the actual mintage was far lower than the planned mintage,
such as the 1/2 oz gold Ancient Maritime Ships and the 1 oz gold Sun
Yat-Sen. We often see the actual mintage exceeded the planned mintage by
a few or a few dozen specimens. Don't panic. The extra specimens were
patterns. For example, the 5 oz gold Huangdi Mausoleum had a planned
mintage of 99, but the actual mintage was 100. The extra specimen was a
pattern. Another example is the 5 oz Longmen, which had a planned
mintage of 288. But the actual mintage was 292. Again the extra 4
specimens were patterns. Among the precious metal coins from the PRC,
there were a couple of cases where the actual mintage was more than the
planned mintage by 10%, but this is very rare.
Conclusions:
Actual
mintage is an important parameter in the collection of precious metal
coins from the PRC. It reflects their history at the same time. The
dynamic change of the actual mintage of a certain type is closely
related to restrikes. For new collectors, they can start on their
journey of value collection and value investment by getting to know the
planned mintage of the precious metal coins. Here is an example. In
1989, China issued a palladium panda coin. This was the only palladium
panda coin in the whole world in the 20th century. The planned mintage
was 3,000. However, because of the political events of that year, the
actually mintage was only 1,367. When the price of palladium shot up a
few years ago, the distributor, Mr. Lim Beng Haw, melted a lot from his
inventory, leaving the coin all the more rare. Even if the new collector
does not know about the actual mintage and melting, he or she can
determine that the coin is well worth collecting based merely on the
planned mintage and the fact that it was the only palladium panda coin
in the 20th century. For each and every coin issued by PRC before the
21st century, the information on their approval, production and
distribution is far from complete, which demands great efforts for us to
research them carefully and continuously. We all have to pitch in and
collect valid information from all channels, before finally establishing
a systematic and complete academic theory on precious metal coins from
the PRC.
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Saturday, May 18, 2013
Thursday, April 18, 2013
Stories behind the Year of the Child Piedfort Gold Coin
By Huang Ruiyong
http://bbs.jibi.net/dispbbs.asp?boardid=91&Id=129830
The 1979 Year of Child piedfort gold coin
(commonly known as "piedfort gold Flower Watering") weighs 34.34 grams,
with a fineness of 90%. It contains 30.906 grams of gold. This was the first
piedfort gold coin from the PRC, with a planned mintage of 500. In 1976, at the
proposal of the Philippines government, the 31st United Nations
General Assembly officially proclaimed 1979 as the Year of the Child, in order
to encourage all the countries in the world to promote the causes of child
protection, education and welfare. To commemorate the Year of the Child, 12
countries issued commemorative gold coins, including Bolivia, Canada, China, Ethiopia,
Tunisia and UAE. Only a handful of these countries, China, Nepal and Thailand,
issued piedfort gold coins, which are rare gems.
On May 12, 1979, the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs, the Finance Ministry, the People's Bank of China and the All-China
Women's Federation submitted a proposal to the State Council for participating
in the United Nations’ plan to issue commemorative precious metal coins for the
Year of the Child. In the initial proposal, it was specified that the gold coin
would have a diameter of 27mm, with a weight of 17.17 grams, a fineness of 90%,
and a face value of 450 Yuan, and that the piedfort gold coin would have a
diameter of 27mm, with a weight of 34.34 grams, a fineness of 90%, and a face
value of 900 Yuan. Upon the approval of the State Council, the People's Bank of
China authorized the State-Owned Factory 614 (Shanghai Mint) to take up the work
of design and minting of this set of coins. Shanghai Mint appointed their arts
and crafts master, Mr. Chen Jian (38 years old then) as the designer of the
coin.
The first draft from Mr. Chen Jian had the
country name, the national emblem and the year on the obverse. On the reverse
was a young girl watering flowers with a watering can, in a squatting position.
But when the design was submitted for review, Mrs. Chen Muhua (then Governor of
the People's Bank of China – translator) wanted the design on the reverse to be
modified: besides the girl, a boy should be added to the design. Following her
advice, Mr. Chen Jian changed the design to a young boy with a shovel and a
girl watering a flower with a can. When the design was finalized, the People's
Bank of China selected March, 1980 to be the release time for the Year of the
Child gold and silver coins, which would be distributed by Paramount
International Coins Co. The specifications of the finalized Year of the Child
piedfort gold coin remained unchanged except for the face value, which was the
same as on the ordinary gold coin, at 450 Yuan.
(Year of the Child first draft )
It should be mentioned that New China attached
great importance to the first set of commemorative precious metal coins with an
international theme. A photo in my collection provides the evidence: the first
ambassador of New China to the United States, Mr. Chai Zemin, and the then
Secretary of the State of the United States, Dr. Henry Kissinger, were both
formally dressed and greeted each other with a hearty handshake when attending
the ceremony for the initial release of the Year of the Child gold and silver
coins. The release of a set of coins resulted in "Sino-American
Friendship". This bears witness to the uniqueness of this set of coins
from a different perspective.
Paramount targeted top collectors in the
international numismatic community when distributing the Year of the Child
piedfort gold coins. Accordingly the selling price was exorbitant, as high as
4,000 US dollars. (The thin version of the gold coin sold only for 737 US
dollars, and the ordinary silver coin sold for 125 US dollars, which
highlighted the huge gap in the selling prices of the piedfort and the thin
versions of the coin.) To emphasize the rarity of the piedfort gold coin,
Paramount solicited the famous American jewelry company Tiffany & Co. for
the design of the classic packaging of the coin. But the selling price of the
piedfort coin was way beyond expectations, and the distributor and coin dealers
in many countries had a hard time selling it. Moreover, the sudden invasion of Afghanistan
by the former Soviet Union pushed the international gold price to a peak. The
Year of the Child piedfort coins were melted by many dealers and sold as gold bullion.
There are three key numbers about the Year
of the Child piedfort gold coin:
1.
Planned mintage: 500
2.
Actual mintage: I only found
the actual mintage numbers for the following Year of the Child gold and silver
coins among the original mintage records at Shanghai Mint: the ordinary gold
coin, the piedfort silver coin, the ordinary silver coin and the matte silver
coin. The actual mintage of the piedfort gold coin was mysteriously missing.
From my discussions with top collectors and top dealers both in China and
abroad, the mintage should be a lot less than 500. The reason is as follows:
Paramount intended to sell the Year of the Child piedfort gold coins to top collectors
in the international numismatic community. Many of the Chinese piedfort gold coins
were packaged together with the Year of the Child piedfort gold coins from
other countries, in a big exquisite custom-made box. As the selling price was unusually
high, Paramount certainly would not have placed an order for full production.
Instead it would have had some coins minted to see whether collectors would
fall for this set of piedfort gold coins. Here is the evidence: according to
the official announcement from the Thai government, the actual mintage of the Thai
Year of the Child piedfort gold coin is 61. This number should not be very far
from the actual mintage of the Year of the Child piedfort gold coin from China.
3.
Surviving mintage: After my
extensive interactions with international coin dealers, collectors and
numismatists that deal in or collect Chinese gold coins, I learned that this
coin had turned up in the following regions: the United States, Germany, Japan,
Mainland China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Russia, Austria and Brazil, with a total
surviving mintage of probably less than 50. The Year of the Child piedfort gold
coin differs from the many large size gold coins from the PRC in that the large
gold coins (5oz and above) have a release mintage of less than 100, which
inherently ensures their rarity. On the other hand, the Year of the Child
piedfort gold coin went through the complete process of production, sales,
absorption and melting. This rarity is a lot harder to achieve than the rarity
of the large size gold coins. The Year of the Child piedfort gold coin is the
king of all small size precious metal coins from the PRC. Its rarity resulted
from historical reasons, which has aroused overwhelming interest from many
Chinese and foreign collectors. The last three public transactions were: 1. At
the 2007 Munich Coin Expo, an Australian coin dealer sold one specimen; 2. At
an Austrian coin auction at the beginning of 2007, a top Russian collector got
hold of one specimen; 3. At the first major coin auction by the Shanghai
Dongfang International Commodity Auction Company, an entrepreneur from North
China won the bid for one specimen.
The following facts also speak to the
rarity of this coin. As far as I know, Mr. Robert Mish, who is one of the most
authoritative American dealers of gold coins from the PRC, and a consultant to
the Krause International Coin Catalogs, handled only 4 specimens of this coin
in his more than 20 years of business in precious metal coins from the PRC,
while a lot more 1980 piedfort gold coins for the Lake Placid Winter Olympics
and for the Chinese Olympics Committee passed through him in the same period of
time. King Chan, a top collector, recalled that some piedfort gold coins for
the Winter Olympics and for the Chinese Olympics Committee turned up every year
at the Hong Kong Coin Expo from 1997 to 2006, but the Year of the Child
piedfort gold coin only made one appearance during those ten years. The
personal experience of a top collector Mr. Li Guoying is more convincing: he
has been collecting gold and silver coins from China for more than 15 years in
Germany. During all this time, he saw the Year of the Child piedfort gold coin
only two times. (One passed through him; the other was seen at the 2007 Munich
Coin Expo.) Mr. Li had the chance of handling many top gems. Even the
Seismograph and Compass kilo gold coins from the 1992 Ancient Inventions and
Discoveries set were once in his possession (with a release mintage of 10 only,
both top rarities). He believes that the Year of the Child piedfort gold coin
is one of the toughest coins to collect among the precious metal coins from the
PRC.
In foreign countries, coin dealers are
closely connected to their business partners. Some top dealers can find all the
rarest coins in their insider circle. But even those with extensive networks
like Mr. Robert Mish, Mr. King Chan and Mr. Li Guoying had very few chances to
run into the Year of the Child piedfort gold coins in 10 to 20 years. The
difficulty of collecting this coin is beyond description.
Finally, it should be mentioned that Mr.
Chen Jian’s name was listed as the designer for the first time in the
international COA of the Flower Watering piedfort gold coin. He was praised as
an outstanding Chinese designer and engraver. The profile of the designer in
the COA of precious metal coins enriched the culture of the Chinese gold coins,
deepening public understanding of the coins.
(Comparison of the coin to a top Chinese
stamp is omitted – translator)
The revelations above resulted from my
interactions and discussions with many top Chinese and international
collectors, coin dealers, numismatists and professionals. When the Year of the
Child piedfort gold coin was minted in 1980, I was still a child, missing the
chance of experiencing the whole sales process of the coin. I see my post as a
teaser, so that experts with precise knowledge of the sales, absorption and
melting process of the coin can come out with more detailed historical data. Of
course, I myself will spare no efforts in digging out historical stories behind
this coin.
Saturday, November 3, 2012
Beginners' Approach to Collection
by Huang Ruiyong
Source: http://bbs.jibi.net/dispbbs.asp?boardid=70&Id=233597&page=2
Good evening everyone. Jibi.net gave me a grand title. I do not feel quite up to it, though.
Honestly, the overall research in the MCC coin field looks weaker than in other coin segments. But just because of this, a historical opportunity presents itself to us. Let’s collect with pleasure, put our hearts to research, and we will have a splendid future.
The three lectures starting from today cover the following topics:
1. Beginners' Approach to Collection
2. Transition to Intermediate Collectors
3. Top Choices for Advanced Collectors
Let's take a look at the topic today, which is directed at new collectors.
Many new collectors get to know precious metal coins and medals of the PRC, and feel deeply impressed. But they have no reference books, no access to the markets in Beijing and Shanghai, and no teachers to learn from. They grope the way all by themselves, like walking in darkness, with extreme difficulty. So I will provide the many new collectors with some suggestions, from the perspective of collection.
“A job can be completed more easily with sharp tools.”
In coin collection, one will definitely gain success if the DIRECTION and APPROACH are correct.
A new collector must adopt the right methodology from the very beginning, focusing on the following aspects: affinity with the coins, logic reasoning, coin knowledge, awareness of the real gems, making friends, and receiving correct information.
If we manage all these aspects successfully, we can pass the beginner phase with success and no hassle. Now let me expand these aspects in detail.
First let’s talk about coin affinity.
What is coin affinity? It is directly “fall in love at first sight.” You fall in love with a coin at first sight, intoxicated by it, applauding it loudly with admiration. This comes from pure appreciation, without any consideration of material gain.
For example, the first set of Bronze ware gold coins were crafted by Tong Youming and Sun Qiling, two top engravers of Shanghai Mint, who put all their heart and soul into these coins. You set them out in a row under spotlights, and watch them beaming out dazzling lights and colors, simply gorgeous and beautiful. It is hard to imagine anyone resisting their temptation.
Another coin is the 2001 2oz Dunhuang silver coin. The sacred image of the buddha in high relief from the prosperous Tang Dynasty is absolutely stately and life-like. The ingenious use of frosting and anti-frosting on the coin endears it to many collectors.
This is coin affinity. If you are a collector and you can pick out the coin you like at first sight from a pile of coins, congratulations! This comes from your coin affinity. It is absolutely a wonderful thing to feel this affinity to a coin.
Most collectors start from appreciating modern precious metal coins due to coin affinity, and then go out of their way to search for and collect these coins.
We all say that there are no cheap or expensive collections, meaning for an item, if you can appreciate its merits, it is worth collecting. But wait! Although we do not distinguish between cheap and expensive collections, there are degrees of sophistication in collection.
For modern precious metal coins issued by the PRC, nobody has the financial power or market channels to collect them all. A newbie should avoid trying to grab at everything in order to advance their own collection. Do not covet every coin that comes in sight. Otherwise your pocket will always be empty, and you be enslaved by coins. Learning what to go after and when to give up, picking coins that you feel affinity for from your own perspective: these are the basis for a newbie to move up to more advanced levels.
After the discussion of coin affinity, let’s focus on the importance of logical reasoning.
If we want to achieve high quality in any work, a methodology that employs logical reasoning is a must. An effective methodology cannot be developed in one day, but logical reasoning can help us with objective analysis and judgment on many occasions.
For example, for a beginner, a top issue is whether a coin is worth buying for the price. On this mind racking issue, logical reasoning can come to our help.
Here is an example:
5oz pandas were issued in many years. In general, if the prices are the same, we will pick the one with the smallest mintage. If the mintage is the same, we will pick those issued in earlier years.
Another example:
If the 1/2oz Guandu Battle gold coin and the 1/2oz Chibi Battle gold coin are not very different in price, we will definitely pick the Guandu Battle coin. The reasoning is: 1. Guandu is from the second set, while Chibi is from the third set; 2. Guandu’s mintage is 2000, while Chibi’s mintage is 3000.
Logic reasoning dictates that when we pick coins we have affinity for, we must consider the following factors: mintage, excellence in design, technology, awards received, key date status, packaging, whether made from platinum or palladium, whether priced close to bullion, whether belonging to a special segment (such as piefort, bimetal and coin alignment). Once we developed logical reasoning, we have met the critical requirements for moving up.
The third aspect is coin knowledge. This is a key point, too. In any art collection or investment field, professional expertise will finally transform into physical wealth. This is universal, in China and abroad, in ancient times and in current days, with no exception. With regard to modern precious metal coins, I would like to kindly remind new collectors: gold and silver coins by nature are dual functional, for collection and appreciation, as well as for investment. If we dive deeply into coin knowledge, we will finally harvest both a great collection for appreciation and rewarding investment return. But if one focuses exclusively on investment or speculation, ignoring the essence – accumulation of coin knowledge, he or she will lose out in the long run.
Coin knowledge needs to be accumulated with solid effort: buy coin catalogs/reference materials, visit coin markets, browse online gold and silver coin sites, go to coin shows, communicate with friends constantly, inspect physical coins, and summarize one’s own knowledge from time to time. In this way, you will find yourself transformed into a veteran before you even realized it.
Of course, it takes great pains to accumulate rich coin knowledge. But if you really like modern precious metal coins, this effort is worth the effort.
Next, we need to establish a sense of gem coins.
What are gems? Gems are like the moon amid the many stars. As time goes by, fashion will fade with wind and rain, but gems will shine forever.
Gems can be divided into high-end gems and gems for the masses. High-end gems, judging from the term, are targets of the top collectors and the super rich. They are like villas in the Xiangshan area in Beijing or those in the Sheshan area in Shanghai. We believe that gold and silver coins generally have three kinds of values: 1. Enjoyment value; 2. Investment value; 3. Show-off value. For the high-end gems, the show-off value is more dominant. For example the flower-watering (Year of Children) piefort gold coin, 5oz gold coins with a mintage of less than 100, platinum lunars… These are all high-end gems which will only change hands among top collectors or appear on auctions. These are the most expensive coins.
On the other hand, the gems for masses are those affordable by the ordinary people, like the SOHO buildings in the Jianwai area in Beijing, or apartment buildings in the Xujiahui area in Shanghai. Although the gems for masses are a lot cheaper than the high-end gems, their collector base is much larger than that of the high-end gems. These include Year of Children gold and silver coins (normal thickness), 8g lunars, 1989 platinum panda, and the award-winning coins over the years. These are all excellent gems for the masses.
These gems, whether high-end or for the masses, will lead price surges and resist price declines. Their ownership is endorsed by the collector community. In this sense, it is vital to develop a sense for the gems. This is especially important for beginners, because it will save them a lot of wasteful errors.
How can a newbie make sure that the coins he or she collects are gems? Coin affinity, logical reasoning and coin knowledge, which were discussed above, all play an important role. To those, we can add the following aspects: making friends and information symmetry.
Making friends is key to precious metal coin collection.
The Analects by Confucius said: We have three kinds of friends to benefit from, those with integration, those with tolerance, and those with rich knowledge. We need friends with such qualities. Friends with integration will let us see other perspectives than our own. Tolerant friends will encourage the voicing of different views in the coin collection community. Knowledgeable friends will help us save time and wasteful errors. For most people, coin collection is a hobby after work. Because of this, we do not have enough energy to explore details of everything. So friends are great complements to our personal limitations.
Coin collection has never been an individual experience, something one can keep just to oneself. When we get hold of a piece of treasure, we immediately feel our heart pounding with maddening elation. But this elation has to be shared with some one. So getting together with friends, chatting over a cup of tea, showing one’s own collection, exchanging new learnings, trading coins and expanding one’s coin knowledge, these are extremely pleasant experiences.
There is a club for fans of modern coins and medals in Hangzhou now, who meet regularly. On the bank of the West Lake, in a warm breeze, sipping fragrant tea, watching glittering gold coins, we get together to spend a happy afternoon or evening over the weekend. Like what Sister Sandezi said, if you can enjoy it with others, why keep it to yourself?
For beginners, breaking the information barrier is critical, too. Luckily we have information readily available these days, and the coin market has totally transformed itself in 10 years.
10 years ago, prices of gold and silver coins in major cities like Nanjing and Hangzhou had a time lag from the prices in Shanghai, not to mention in small cities or county seats. But now, with the power of the web, many collectors can make impressive gains even from small cities. For example, although Youxia is located in a remote place in Northern Jiangsu, he can make contacts abroad and find impressive coins for fellow collectors. His timeliness is no less than that of coin dealers in Lugong or Madian.
It is my personal view that collectors have more options in the world of Internet. Before buying a common coin, do price comparison on the web. But for coins with a high price tag, it is imperative to do as much homework as possible in advance. Now the topics discussed above all circle back to us: coin affinity, logical reasoning, coin knowledge, awareness of gem coins, a group of friends. With more thinking and knowledge, we will feel more confident. I believe that the purpose for jibi.net to list honest dealers is to build the reputation for them, and remove the information barrier between dealers and collectors.
In addition, with new releases and common coins, the market is relatively transparent. But due to the extreme scarcity of some early precious metal coin gems, it is absolutely a seller’s market. In addition, because there are few transaction records available, which beginners have a hard time to obtain, they have to take great precautions when buying/trading such coins. It is not that dealers are always trying to trick collectors. To be fair, the price information of some early coins is even beyond the reach of coin dealers.
I have been sorting out transaction price data of modern Chinese gold and silver coins from all over the world. If anyone is interested, we can compare notes sometime and use them as reference. As far as I know, auctions exclusively for modern Chinese gold and silver coins will be held this year. Auction records will be used later on as important guides for early rare coins.
Time is running out. I have covered only a small part of the materials I prepared. Sorry to you all.
To summarize:
Coin affinity will guide our affection to the coin;
Logic reasoning equips us with the ability to maneuver through the market;
Coin knowledge is the requirement for beginners to grow;
Awareness of gem coins enables us to take off;
Good friends make us completely relaxed;
Symmetry in information gives us a sense of security.
If beginners can achieve all these, they will naturally advance to intermediate collectors before long.
Source: http://bbs.jibi.net/dispbbs.asp?boardid=70&Id=233597&page=2
Good evening everyone. Jibi.net gave me a grand title. I do not feel quite up to it, though.
Honestly, the overall research in the MCC coin field looks weaker than in other coin segments. But just because of this, a historical opportunity presents itself to us. Let’s collect with pleasure, put our hearts to research, and we will have a splendid future.
The three lectures starting from today cover the following topics:
1. Beginners' Approach to Collection
2. Transition to Intermediate Collectors
3. Top Choices for Advanced Collectors
Let's take a look at the topic today, which is directed at new collectors.
Many new collectors get to know precious metal coins and medals of the PRC, and feel deeply impressed. But they have no reference books, no access to the markets in Beijing and Shanghai, and no teachers to learn from. They grope the way all by themselves, like walking in darkness, with extreme difficulty. So I will provide the many new collectors with some suggestions, from the perspective of collection.
“A job can be completed more easily with sharp tools.”
In coin collection, one will definitely gain success if the DIRECTION and APPROACH are correct.
A new collector must adopt the right methodology from the very beginning, focusing on the following aspects: affinity with the coins, logic reasoning, coin knowledge, awareness of the real gems, making friends, and receiving correct information.
If we manage all these aspects successfully, we can pass the beginner phase with success and no hassle. Now let me expand these aspects in detail.
First let’s talk about coin affinity.
What is coin affinity? It is directly “fall in love at first sight.” You fall in love with a coin at first sight, intoxicated by it, applauding it loudly with admiration. This comes from pure appreciation, without any consideration of material gain.
For example, the first set of Bronze ware gold coins were crafted by Tong Youming and Sun Qiling, two top engravers of Shanghai Mint, who put all their heart and soul into these coins. You set them out in a row under spotlights, and watch them beaming out dazzling lights and colors, simply gorgeous and beautiful. It is hard to imagine anyone resisting their temptation.
Another coin is the 2001 2oz Dunhuang silver coin. The sacred image of the buddha in high relief from the prosperous Tang Dynasty is absolutely stately and life-like. The ingenious use of frosting and anti-frosting on the coin endears it to many collectors.
This is coin affinity. If you are a collector and you can pick out the coin you like at first sight from a pile of coins, congratulations! This comes from your coin affinity. It is absolutely a wonderful thing to feel this affinity to a coin.
Most collectors start from appreciating modern precious metal coins due to coin affinity, and then go out of their way to search for and collect these coins.
We all say that there are no cheap or expensive collections, meaning for an item, if you can appreciate its merits, it is worth collecting. But wait! Although we do not distinguish between cheap and expensive collections, there are degrees of sophistication in collection.
For modern precious metal coins issued by the PRC, nobody has the financial power or market channels to collect them all. A newbie should avoid trying to grab at everything in order to advance their own collection. Do not covet every coin that comes in sight. Otherwise your pocket will always be empty, and you be enslaved by coins. Learning what to go after and when to give up, picking coins that you feel affinity for from your own perspective: these are the basis for a newbie to move up to more advanced levels.
After the discussion of coin affinity, let’s focus on the importance of logical reasoning.
If we want to achieve high quality in any work, a methodology that employs logical reasoning is a must. An effective methodology cannot be developed in one day, but logical reasoning can help us with objective analysis and judgment on many occasions.
For example, for a beginner, a top issue is whether a coin is worth buying for the price. On this mind racking issue, logical reasoning can come to our help.
Here is an example:
5oz pandas were issued in many years. In general, if the prices are the same, we will pick the one with the smallest mintage. If the mintage is the same, we will pick those issued in earlier years.
Another example:
If the 1/2oz Guandu Battle gold coin and the 1/2oz Chibi Battle gold coin are not very different in price, we will definitely pick the Guandu Battle coin. The reasoning is: 1. Guandu is from the second set, while Chibi is from the third set; 2. Guandu’s mintage is 2000, while Chibi’s mintage is 3000.
Logic reasoning dictates that when we pick coins we have affinity for, we must consider the following factors: mintage, excellence in design, technology, awards received, key date status, packaging, whether made from platinum or palladium, whether priced close to bullion, whether belonging to a special segment (such as piefort, bimetal and coin alignment). Once we developed logical reasoning, we have met the critical requirements for moving up.
The third aspect is coin knowledge. This is a key point, too. In any art collection or investment field, professional expertise will finally transform into physical wealth. This is universal, in China and abroad, in ancient times and in current days, with no exception. With regard to modern precious metal coins, I would like to kindly remind new collectors: gold and silver coins by nature are dual functional, for collection and appreciation, as well as for investment. If we dive deeply into coin knowledge, we will finally harvest both a great collection for appreciation and rewarding investment return. But if one focuses exclusively on investment or speculation, ignoring the essence – accumulation of coin knowledge, he or she will lose out in the long run.
Coin knowledge needs to be accumulated with solid effort: buy coin catalogs/reference materials, visit coin markets, browse online gold and silver coin sites, go to coin shows, communicate with friends constantly, inspect physical coins, and summarize one’s own knowledge from time to time. In this way, you will find yourself transformed into a veteran before you even realized it.
Of course, it takes great pains to accumulate rich coin knowledge. But if you really like modern precious metal coins, this effort is worth the effort.
Next, we need to establish a sense of gem coins.
What are gems? Gems are like the moon amid the many stars. As time goes by, fashion will fade with wind and rain, but gems will shine forever.
Gems can be divided into high-end gems and gems for the masses. High-end gems, judging from the term, are targets of the top collectors and the super rich. They are like villas in the Xiangshan area in Beijing or those in the Sheshan area in Shanghai. We believe that gold and silver coins generally have three kinds of values: 1. Enjoyment value; 2. Investment value; 3. Show-off value. For the high-end gems, the show-off value is more dominant. For example the flower-watering (Year of Children) piefort gold coin, 5oz gold coins with a mintage of less than 100, platinum lunars… These are all high-end gems which will only change hands among top collectors or appear on auctions. These are the most expensive coins.
On the other hand, the gems for masses are those affordable by the ordinary people, like the SOHO buildings in the Jianwai area in Beijing, or apartment buildings in the Xujiahui area in Shanghai. Although the gems for masses are a lot cheaper than the high-end gems, their collector base is much larger than that of the high-end gems. These include Year of Children gold and silver coins (normal thickness), 8g lunars, 1989 platinum panda, and the award-winning coins over the years. These are all excellent gems for the masses.
These gems, whether high-end or for the masses, will lead price surges and resist price declines. Their ownership is endorsed by the collector community. In this sense, it is vital to develop a sense for the gems. This is especially important for beginners, because it will save them a lot of wasteful errors.
How can a newbie make sure that the coins he or she collects are gems? Coin affinity, logical reasoning and coin knowledge, which were discussed above, all play an important role. To those, we can add the following aspects: making friends and information symmetry.
Making friends is key to precious metal coin collection.
The Analects by Confucius said: We have three kinds of friends to benefit from, those with integration, those with tolerance, and those with rich knowledge. We need friends with such qualities. Friends with integration will let us see other perspectives than our own. Tolerant friends will encourage the voicing of different views in the coin collection community. Knowledgeable friends will help us save time and wasteful errors. For most people, coin collection is a hobby after work. Because of this, we do not have enough energy to explore details of everything. So friends are great complements to our personal limitations.
Coin collection has never been an individual experience, something one can keep just to oneself. When we get hold of a piece of treasure, we immediately feel our heart pounding with maddening elation. But this elation has to be shared with some one. So getting together with friends, chatting over a cup of tea, showing one’s own collection, exchanging new learnings, trading coins and expanding one’s coin knowledge, these are extremely pleasant experiences.
There is a club for fans of modern coins and medals in Hangzhou now, who meet regularly. On the bank of the West Lake, in a warm breeze, sipping fragrant tea, watching glittering gold coins, we get together to spend a happy afternoon or evening over the weekend. Like what Sister Sandezi said, if you can enjoy it with others, why keep it to yourself?
For beginners, breaking the information barrier is critical, too. Luckily we have information readily available these days, and the coin market has totally transformed itself in 10 years.
10 years ago, prices of gold and silver coins in major cities like Nanjing and Hangzhou had a time lag from the prices in Shanghai, not to mention in small cities or county seats. But now, with the power of the web, many collectors can make impressive gains even from small cities. For example, although Youxia is located in a remote place in Northern Jiangsu, he can make contacts abroad and find impressive coins for fellow collectors. His timeliness is no less than that of coin dealers in Lugong or Madian.
It is my personal view that collectors have more options in the world of Internet. Before buying a common coin, do price comparison on the web. But for coins with a high price tag, it is imperative to do as much homework as possible in advance. Now the topics discussed above all circle back to us: coin affinity, logical reasoning, coin knowledge, awareness of gem coins, a group of friends. With more thinking and knowledge, we will feel more confident. I believe that the purpose for jibi.net to list honest dealers is to build the reputation for them, and remove the information barrier between dealers and collectors.
In addition, with new releases and common coins, the market is relatively transparent. But due to the extreme scarcity of some early precious metal coin gems, it is absolutely a seller’s market. In addition, because there are few transaction records available, which beginners have a hard time to obtain, they have to take great precautions when buying/trading such coins. It is not that dealers are always trying to trick collectors. To be fair, the price information of some early coins is even beyond the reach of coin dealers.
I have been sorting out transaction price data of modern Chinese gold and silver coins from all over the world. If anyone is interested, we can compare notes sometime and use them as reference. As far as I know, auctions exclusively for modern Chinese gold and silver coins will be held this year. Auction records will be used later on as important guides for early rare coins.
Time is running out. I have covered only a small part of the materials I prepared. Sorry to you all.
To summarize:
Coin affinity will guide our affection to the coin;
Logic reasoning equips us with the ability to maneuver through the market;
Coin knowledge is the requirement for beginners to grow;
Awareness of gem coins enables us to take off;
Good friends make us completely relaxed;
Symmetry in information gives us a sense of security.
If beginners can achieve all these, they will naturally advance to intermediate collectors before long.
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